Why not? I enjoyed myself at least as much doing that as I would have watching TV or playing a game, and as a side benefit several people became more educated on copyright law. That you find this laughable is something I find truly sad. Although it does explain some of your goofball attitudes, you've never seriously discussed them with others.

I didn't realize that your presence here was so beneficial. I apologize for mocking your devotion to condescending to those who do not share your perspective of the world.

And that sort of thing is why I don't feel you to be worth my time debating. To you it's simply a way to rile and annoy people anonymously.

Doesn't seem like that much of a goal to go from the most expensive system in the world to the 2nd most expensive system, but I still grant that would be an improvement. Personally I would choose France's system if only because it would piss you off.

It's more the fact that you pretty much ignored anything that wasn't opinionated completely.

You said it's hard to debate someone with no courtesy. Tell me, how is that sarcastic post courteus? Surely you want to be above your opponents on the courtesy scale?

Finally, if you believed what you were saying so much, wouldn't you have a response? If I read something I don't agree with, I usually think: "well that's not true, because..." or "hmm, I never looked at it that way," or "he does make a good point here." I never think "I don't agree with him, but I can't prove him wrong, so I'll just find one little thing he says that I can attack."

I  guess that's just me.

There is no place where winning an argument is more like winning special olympics than here. There really is no point in discussing anything at all and so I usually don't waste my breath.

The only possible benefit of trying to argue logically is to indicate to any possible open minded lurkers (if one such person exists I'd be surprised) that the discussion is not unanimous in one direction.

But again, really whats the point? When in rome do as the romans do. Nitpick a picayune point ignoring the paragraphs of logic that preceded it. You can laugh to yourself about how much fruitless effort someone put into a post only to have it totally glossed over by some non sequitur. Just don't be foolish enough to waste your time caring what anyone says or trying to convince them that their point of view is not necessarily the only view that a reasonable person may hold. If nothing else pick on a typo and criticise their spelling.

I'm fine with the fact that people hold different views and opinions. What I'm not fine with is when everyone else's opinions are fact and your facts are not only opinions but incorrect opinions that no reasonable person has a right to hold.

If you're looking for any kind of acknowledgemet that your point of view may have some validity even though others may not share it then you better go look somewhere else because you won't find that here.

Wow... I'm away for a few days and  suddenly someone released the shitstorm.  

Can't you all argue like gentlemen?  

P.S. Thats hilarious, but probably out context.

This works outside of Joe User, too. It's common rhetoric especially in american lobbyism.

This scene probably explains 90% of all "discussions" you see on the more biased TV shows.

The movie should automatically start at 8:40.

what I would also be interested in: what are normal amounts that americans spend for their health care schemes per month? what kind of service would you get for that? I mean I can say it is around 11% of your wage here, a  bit less in germany. so, if you take a relatively normal income of 2.500€ per month, health care would cost you in the vicinity of 250€. that's probably more than you guys pay in the us, no?

Decent health insurance for a family if you can get into a good sized "group" is $1200 per month. The same coverage is $1600 per month if it's a small group and probably closer to $1800 for no group at all.

This is good coverage but not the best. Per visit copays are $20, there's a $1000 yearly per person deductible usually with a $2000 cap per family. Perscriptions are $10 for generics, $20 for for preferred drugs and $30 for non preferred drugs.

There are cheaper plans with higher copays and deductibles and more expensive plans with lower copays and deductibles.

In fact Americans for Prosperity originally started out as a tobacco astroturf organization.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Americans_for_Prosperity

?! that's freaking neck breaking! and ppl are content with that? I mean barring very high incomes that's a pretty sizable chunk of your income I'd say.

$1800 per month for health insurance if you live single ??????

What kind of income do you americans get ??? And I mean the average american (whatever that is).

You guys must be freaking rich compared to us if you can afford health care.