That's very interesting because what that says is that you are ashamed of what you are. You could call me a liberal and add any adjective you care to and to me that's not an insult, it's a compliment. I'm proud of being a liberal and for the policies that being liberal stand for.

Calling someone stupid is an insult and that's what you do constantly. Calling someone that's obviously to the right of Ann Coulter a "rabid right wingnut" is not an insult, it's merely the truth.

And how can someone that has repeatedly stated that the poor are only poor because they are either lazy, stupid or preferably both and therefore deserve the state that they're in, deny that they've swallowed Ayn Rand's so called "philosophy" of objectivism, hook, line and sinker?

I'm sorry that you are so ashamed of what you are that you consider it insulting for someone else to simply point it out. It must be sad to have to live your life in the closet. You should be proud of being a rabid right wingnut Ayn Rand sycophant, because that's in fact what you are.

I agree that namecalling doesn't help, but it's hardly like that behavior is exclusive to folks 'on the left.' One of my greatest frustrations with my party is that our national leadership has completely failed to find a way to turn the bilious vitriol of the post-Gingrich GOP to our advantage. Instead of calling out the bullies for both rudeness and an increasing estrangement from facts, more and more of my fellow Democrats seem to be joining 'em down in the rhetorical gutters because they can't figure out how to beat 'em civilized-style.

So, yes, I'm bored with Mumble's need to call names so frequently. But I'm far, far more bored with that sad old "gummint cain't do nothin' right" crap. Come out of the anarchist closet or get over that tired trope. Unless you seriously want to make another attempt at living in anarcho-syndicalist groups, government is necessary and can be done well. Constantly proclaiming universal incompetence in government is a perverse attempt at a self-fulfilling prophecy. We certainly don't pay many public servants as well as people doing similar work in the private sector. Pile unending insults on top of that economic status factor, and morale must take a hit, which can't be good for efficiency.

@ the OP: Health care in the US is too large and complicated for bumper-sticker praise or insults to be accurate; the total system produces 'miracles' and also ruins lives, ending some early in what amounts to manslaughter by paperwork. I first began learning about our systemic problems when my mother took her master's in oncology nursing in the '80s and began teaching me about things like the freebies that pharma firms used to shower medical folks with. She began her nursing career in the early '60s, when it was generally understood as a service calling. By the '80s, the 'business model' had penetrated even the bureaucratic bowels of the VA and Mom told me that HMOs were going to be captured by the larger insurance industry and would not do a thing to restrain cost growth. She voted for Reagan twice and died about three years ago a strong supporter of creating a national health service.

Doesnt matter the freemarket rethoric, silly american patriotism, and "liberal left wacko" namecalling, the health of people should not be another asset subject to the laws of market supply and demand.  Why stop there, let's privatize education, police force, defense, everything.  That's why health care systems in Canada, Europe and other countries are much better than the profit-driven one from the good ole U S of A.

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