Just saw this:
Awesome! No more proof needed that he is Grand Cyclops of the Tinfoil Brigade.
Epic Seduction Fail. Try to read her thoughts of him on her face.
Glenn Beck screaming like a girl getting dumped by the Jonas Brothers. Starts at 3:38 for the preliminary screams but the epic yell comes at 3:52. It's really worth watching from the beginning.
Beck finally meets his master ... or rather mistress. Hard to believe but it's possible to outcrazy even him. Michele Bachmann's insane ramblings are too much even for Beck.
agreed, to be at 42% after 6 mo. or so..
I don't like polls myself.. but typically... their dead on.
Polls aside... (quotes are paraphrasing)
"I will reach across party lines for true bipartisanship." Here, republicans, here is a heaping serving of dog crap. Eat it. When the republicans don't take a bite, they are berated for not embracing bipartisanship.
"The war on terror is over. Troops will be coming home." Why, Mr. President, are you about to send more troops to Afghanistan and are now referencing this again as the "war on terror?" Maybe W was indeed doing the right thing, and it wasn't until you were in his position that you realized it.
Don't even get me started on the continuous referencing of the peaceful, educated, protestors as rioters and un-American. Or the Health Care debacle. Or the attempts to equalize Americans through economy. Equality is not determined strictly through your wealth, but it's disgusting that Mr. President wants to put a dollar figure on it. Or the appalling behavior by NBC, CBS, ABC, etc. that continue to coddle this presidency in hopes to get at the money he is printing.
No, I am not a Fox slappy. There are times when their obvious bias towards the right is just as distasteful to me. But they will not hesitate to call out their fellow conservatives if they do something stupid. They are the closest thing to unbiased we have, unfortunately.
Sorry. This president has bitten off more than he could chew. He went in thinking this was the ultimate popularity contest and once he was in office, he was slapped with a massive dose of reality and he's in panic mode right now. He will continue to drag out health care as long as he can because it's a huge issue and it is hiding all of the other crap he's feeding America right now.
W did not leave the country in the greatest shape, agreed. But Obama has sent us into a tailspin, and most people backing him keep waiting for him to get the plane under control. Sorry people, the only ones that can do that are yourselves. Keep relying on the government, particularly this government, and you will be wondering soon how we turned into a third world country.
Heh. Didn't know I was feeling so animated about all this.
Peace, love, harmony!
Oh, I almost forgot. Since I am unhappy with this president and the freefall that this country is in, that makes me a racist.
/facepalm
HR 3200 "America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009" Sec. 1233. Advance care planning consultation.
I have read this section several times. Sometimes when I read it I get the impression that it is a counseling of options.
However other times when I read it I get the impression that these consultations give the council the power to influence what care a person will receive. The fact that the entire thing is written in so much legalese that even lawmakers admit to not understanding it make me suspicious.
I invite everyone to read it for themselves and make their own decisions.
Conversely if the democrats wanted to push ahead on the health care debate they would rewrite or amend that section. For all the concessions and changes being discussed it just blows my mind that neither side has made an effort to reword the bill in a way that would negate the death panel talking point. Do I just not understand the process here?
I too have read it. You have to expand the meaning of the words very very very far to think there is anything that suggests "death panels". Ask yourself a common sense question. If these actually were death panels, would that be political suicide? I think the obvious answer is yes.
There is no way the current administration or any previous Republican administrations would advocate for death panels. Even if they truly wanted them, establishing death panels would not be politically viable.
Which "lawmakers" admit to not understanding it? Grassley? Mostly ones with big R's in front of their names correct?
There is little difference between military bureaucrats and other government ones. Paperwork, red tape and jumping through hoops.
I looked it up, generals get paid more than the newest congressman. 184,000 to 174,000. Not to mention other benefits generals get such as free housing and not having to run for your job every two years.
Since you gave me incorrect facts on general to congressman pay, I simply cannot believe your assertion about health care administrators unless you provide some actual facts, not just things you think.
Really? I do not recall anyone in this thread calling you a racist.
I would venture a guess that if you think the country is in a freefall then that makes you a staunch Republican and thats about it.
Right. The one's with big D's simply admit to not having read it.
Death panels. Counselers. Call it what you want, but this is not something that should be held for others to decide, and the proposal as it stands leaves it open to interpretation, which is incredibly dangerous when you are talking about life and death.
That is good. I do not recall saying anyone here called me a racist.
There are many liberals out there who believe and claim just because people disagree with Obama or protest against items he is presenting, that they are racist. Sorry that I had to fill in that gap.
And no, I am not a republican. Republicans are typically just as bad as Democrats.
By big R you mean Representative?
"What good is reading the bill if it's a thousand pages and you don't have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?"
Let's assume they'll be between a GS-13 and 15, living in Washington DC. This table shows what they can expect to make:
EFFECTIVE JANUARY 2008
Annual Rates by Grade and Step
Grade
Step 1
Step 2
Step 3
Step 4
Step 5
Step 6
Step 7
Step 8
Step 9
Step 10
1
20607
21295
21980
22662
23347
23750
24427
25110
25137
25779
2
23169
23720
24486
25417
26164
26911
27658
28406
29153
3
25279
26122
26965
27807
28650
29492
30335
31178
32020
32863
4
28379
29325
30272
31219
32165
33112
34058
35005
35951
36898
5
31751
32808
33866
34924
35982
37039
38097
39155
40213
41271
6
35392
36572
37752
38931
40111
41291
42471
43651
44831
46011
7
39330
40641
41951
43262
44572
45883
47193
48503
49814
51124
8
43557
45009
46460
47912
49364
50816
52268
53720
55172
56624
9
48108
49712
51317
52921
54525
56129
57733
59338
60942
62546
10
52979
54745
56511
58277
60044
61810
63576
65342
67108
68875
11
58206
60146
62087
64027
65967
67908
69848
71788
73728
75669
12
69764
72090
74416
76742
79068
81394
83720
86046
88372
90698
13
82961
85727
88493
91259
94025
96791
99557
102323
105088
107854
14
98033
101301
104569
107836
111104
114372
117639
120907
124175
127442
15
115317
119161
123006
126850
130694
134538
138383
142227
146071
149000
* Rate limited to the rate for level IV of the Executive Schedule (5 U.S.C. 5304 (g)(1)).
http://www.opm.gov/oca/08tables/html/dcb.asp
The department of defense pay calculator isn't working at the moment so I'll have to take your word for it on 174,000-184,000 for generals, but it seems plausible. Bear in mind that figure is going to be adjusted by location and generally when you hear military pay estimates you tally the health care benefits, housing allowance, etc. into the total and housing allowances, per diems, etc. will vary dramatically based on location. Luckily though most generals are either in Washington DC so there's not going to be the same amount of variation there was when I was moving around the country as a senior airman.
Here's a link which is supposed to let you calculate the salaries of military folk and adjusts for location and benefits, but it's not working for me. If any of you guys can get it to function post your results here. Remember a general/admiral is O-7 to O-10, but I *think* most of the people making decisions in the pentagon are going to be at least O-8 or O-9.
http://www.defenselink.mil/militarypay/mpcalcs/Calculators/RMC.aspx
An interesting number, 42%. Why is it when there are dozens of polls released, do you latch on to the Zogby outlier? Hmmmmmmmmm. It seems you will ignore all other evidence and accept only the number which reflects your personal opinions/feelings.
Most other polls put the president in the low to mid 50's in approval. Which is just fine. In fact its about equal to President Bush's approval ratings just before 9/11, and President Bush did not have an inherited tanking economy to deal with.