Healthcare should be a right.

All depends who is paying for it.

What about Sunstein and Holdren?  No comments?

False ‘Death Panel’ Rumor Has Some Familiar Roots

NEW YORK TIMES

i think he would make a killing selling avon.......

ill be honest, i started watching him and i got scared..why? because he seems to have a way of pulling you in...

not sure if its charisma, or the way he talks or his presence...but im an aussie so i have nooo idea what he is talking about, so I knew i coudlnt continue. im not saying anything against beck, just my own personal experience i had with him.

i only found one thing strange and that is how he commented on how he had no idea how he ended up in a fox studio doing that show....his biography pretty much tells it  how he got there, first  a dj, then a radio host, then a host on a tv show...so not sure why he says he dosnt get it, or understand why if he accepted every new job that he did.

either way its a strange show! we dont have anything like that here in aus. in aus we are pretty up to date with what goes on in our parliment. we have a show on the abc called 'question time' and its broadcast live inside parliment where you actually get to see what goes on, i love it.  we know a fair bit of what goes on in our political system, so im rther greatful for that.

and our stimulous package has really helped our ecconomy too! WE LUV KEVVY!  (prime minister kevin rudd)

Oh.. well if the Times disputes it , it must be contrived ... they must have not spoken the words clearly quoted and heard on tape.

In the bill or not... these two (more) nutjobs are now in powerful posititions delegated by the Obama admin.

Wait wait.. don't tell me.. they have recently renounced their manifests for killing children and sterilizing the water supply.??

He couldn't  sell Avon. As soon as he found out that the rep above him was making money from his sales and it was all a big pyramid scheme, his head would explode..I mean his ass...no wait...

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what I said.

As for the first, that's not something I can prove or disprove, it's just opinion.  I don't think that the people in charge believe we're stupid, by the definition which was implied in the segment or by a more standard definition.  I can only assume they're referring to things like sin taxes on cigarettes, sugary drinks, etc., and I see those as more of a clever way to both generate revenue and diminish demand for those items. 

Lemme give an example of how I can rationalize smart people making 'stupid' choices with which sin taxes can help without implying people are stupid.  Where I live there's literally only one fast food restaurant which has healthy food, which is Subway, and even Subway only offers drinks made with high fructose corn syrup.  Making the unhealthy foods less profitable won't eliminate unhealthy foods as a meal choice, but it will make healthier foods which are more expensive a much better option and they might even make a better effort at serving juice or other beverage alternatives after breakfast.

When it comes to animals having rights which supercede the rights of humans I don't have an issue with that. Currently even plants have a right to exist in our national parks and endangered species are protected from our incursions. As for them showing up in the court room I don't see how you would take issue with that either. Now I can't imagine having a dog which has been beaten physically present in the court room would help, but if you have a video of a dog which is shown being friendly with a number of people and it then cowers in fear when placed near its owner who's accused of abusing it, then perhaps that could be part of a larger case with all the standard colleciton of evidence. If you're talking about a cat meowing and sentencing someone to death, like Beck seems to be implying we're headed towards, then that's just absurd.

I'll respond to the others later. I read the relevant part Holdren's work and the text around it and the date of its publication tell a much different story. Anyway, I've gotta do some homework.

The valid complaints about Beck.  He's sophmoric, if we're being generous.  Then again, at least half of the adult population his age hasn't grown up either, so it's not terribly surprising that he acts like a high schooler most of the time.  Read your own posts, most of us aren't any better.  He's dramatic, traumatically so at times.  On occasion he's downright annoying, like the retarded shit he pulled a couple days ago with computer voices reading statements by the crazy czars we've been saddled with.  End of complaints, you don't like his sense of humor.

His sense of humor isn't of any value in determining whether he's giving factual information or not, as you have ignored every time it's been presented, Po.

If you're not a proponent of the top down planned economy, Obama is a crazy person.  He's got more communists(stop the McCarthy name dropping, several of then are self admitted communists and you're just going to have to get over it) in his administration than we've had altogether since the Russian revolt.

If you actually bother to read a little history, everything they don't dare mention in school, he's a fucking nightmare.  The claim that this country could never be Nazi Germany is real nice, but we've already been there and done that for the most part.  You just don't know about it because your public education has expunged all that nasty stuff the progressives did the last time they had real power.  Try the NRA on for size.  The organization you never heard about in your history classes when they were talking about how much good was done by that catastrophic fuckup for a president.  Start there and then work your way to political prisoners and corporate corruption.  Of note, GE was in bed with Uncle then too.  They were pushing fascism of all things.  Hilarious huh?  The only thing we didn't do was the wonderful bit about ethnic cleansing.

Not everyone wants Uncle to run their life for them, and that's what you're getting if the guy has his way.  If all the racists he's hanging with are any indication, you better not be white either.  The mission statement for his church read like a KKK pamplet, the only thing different was what color they liked.  For all his protestations that he somehow missed the blatent racism there, he's got plenty more black supremacists working with him now, Van Jones for instance.

Thanks vStyler. Could not agree more.

Amazing. Some people think Glenn Beck is sane, honest and reporting facts.

Wow.

I've been all across this country and have seen and heard a lot. Then I came to the south. It's amazing the attitude of a lot of people here. If a black man wants equality in the work place, he's a shit disturber. If he wants to advance and do better, he's uppity. If he manages to attain a position of authority, he's too stupid to be there. If wants to try and help the ones who are still just trying to get some equality, he's a racist. . I just had no idea that that kind of fear and hate was so wide spread. That's one thing Beck has opened my eyes to.

That's about all I have to address with you.  Have a nice life.

We listen to NPR pretty regularly.  Never listened to Beck or O'Reilly on the radio but have listened to Limbaugh (who coined a phrase after my husband) but you made my point for me.  You assumed that someone other than a liberal wouldn't listen to anything that wasn't in lock step with Right wing talking points.  I think that assumption speaks more about the one doing the assuming.

Huh?  Ever heard of the library?  You don't have to have money to read, that's just silly.  We trade books with friends and family too when there are new ones that we want to read right away.

By the way do you view NPR as a counterpoint to Fox or just a balanced news source in its own right?

No service should ever be a right and no right should ever be a service. Rights should never be at someone else's expense. Is it someone's "right" to pay taxes for services others receive and don't pay for? Please.

Excellent post.